Bram Cohen accuses Brian Freeman of "taking down" chia (he is terrified)

I think the important thing here is not what Bram says because he always says something, he manages a cryptocurrency that went from 1600 usd to 16 usd, how can his words be important?

I think the important thing is;
bwfree (i am sorry i dont know your real name) already left the farm. He also left his job as a lawyer but despite all this he is still being dragged into the discussions. The guy (bwfree) is still wasting time on this nonsense. I am really sorry for you my friend. Maybe it is not much but I want to say I love you. I hope this helps to make up for the loss of time a little.

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I just see you as the 10-y back ā€œmeā€ trying to deal with my ex-wife.
Once you manage to get rid of itā€¦

  • If she fails, you can say youā€™ve seen it comingā€¦
  • If what she does works, it would have been better with your ideas, donā€™t you think?

But anyway, it was just the good time for you to step aside from her/itā€¦

The main problem I see now with Chia is that so many people lost faith that any moment the price moves up, people will start selling to cover losses, making any upwards trend very hard to maintain.

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The main problem I see now with Chia is that so many people lost faith that any moment the price moves up, CNI will start selling to cover losses, making any upwards trend very hard to maintain.

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Guys, please donā€™t give up. Itā€™s still profitable to mine Chia if done correctly. From my point of view, I mine NoSSD C32 plots and Iā€™ve set it up to farm 60 hard drives of 18TB with 2 3060Ti graphics cards. This setup helps me lower the electricity cost to equivalent of $6/xch. Thereā€™s still room to continue; itā€™s not great, and itā€™s not what I had planned, but at a price of $0.175/kW, I can keep going.

Indeed, things have gone crazy around these news about the conflict between Brian Freeman and CNI, plus the whole context of the crypto market has led to these massive declines. We must not get discouraged. Itā€™s very important to unite and FORCE CNI to release a new plot format and ban GPU compression. A new format that will help us stay afloat. Brian has already exited. He declared that he sold everything at $28/chia; I HAVENā€™T EXITED YET. In 3.5 years, Iā€™ve mined over 6000 XCH that are just sitting in my cold wallet. Kudos to him for getting out when he needed to.

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Letā€™s look at the GOOD AND BEAUTIFUL side of things. We are at 20 EiB or under, we are mining more, accumulating, especially after the two halvings.

Keep going guysā€¦

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We need a NEW PLOT FORMAT ā€“ around 30 GiB to be profitable.
If not, Chia will stumble

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Small problems with your concept of ā€˜profitableā€™. First, electricity is only an expense, not the whole costā€¦for example you do not mention the equipment necessary that is required to farm/plot. As a depreciating asset that has a time cost. And it is not a little $, rather quite a sum. Then there is your time cost, but I digress.

Second, just because you can make a few cents a day, doesnā€™t make it a good use of resources($). If youā€™d put the money youā€™ve spent (are spending) in the bank, or some other fixed return product, youā€™d likely make more that what you are now. Or invest in NVIDA, or AMD, or even INTC for a better ride with your money, at least for the next couple years! That would leave you time to do any number of other things!

Third, do those in the know who have exited Chia positions know something you do not? Perhaps, and always wise to note and investigate that as you proceed. That is, donā€™t be the last guy to have the door hit you in the you know where. You could be left with a boatload of XCH (what is ā€œan XCHā€ ???)

Fourth, you make Chia sound like some holy thing that should not be abandoned. It, like most all crypto, is a concept, It is completely ephemeral, as no actual value to nothing, right?

Fifth, if you think a new plot format will ā€œsaveā€ Chia, that is a real longshot. Even good ideas (if that is one) that are applied to things that have fallen out of favor with the general audience that might be interested (Chia as crypto), are most often ignored ā€¦ as part of a last gasp of the continual decline of a failing project that will inevitably fail.

Regardless, good luck!

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there is alot of crypto projects that came back from ashesā€¦
Even ETH. Chia has a lot of potential; the project shouldnā€™t be dismissed, but indeed, the people involved seem to spend their time sabotaging it. Yes, I believed strongly in Chia because I really wanted to get in on a project like this from the start, not just out of a desire to make money overnight. I invested quite a bit, and even Brian messaged me privately a year ago saying that no matter what happens with Chia, I should hold on to my COINS and sell the equipmentā€¦ Now, things got strange. We had 2 halvings. Weā€™ll see what happens.

What about other opportunities? What could I do? Itā€™s tough now, after the war. Itā€™s true, a lot of time invested, attention lost because of this project, a lot of money spent, and in the evening Iā€™m glad that the energy cost for a farmer I built represents about 35% at a xch price of $16. If it rebounds to $25-30, Iā€™ll be in a different league. Maybe Iā€™m just dreamingā€¦

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Yeah, we can always hope Chia can recover, or at least the coin maintain some value. I too have been in it since inception. At this point, now a few years down the lonely road that is Chiaā€¦ and truthfully it feels like unrequited love, IMHO. Lot of promises made, few kept, lots of shenanigans.

ā€¦meanwhile, I have no disks farming, only my stash of XCH :roll_eyes: to remind me of what could have been.

I really feel what you saidā€¦
right now, im replotting to C32 NoSSD entire farm from C34 NoSSD, and 18x 2TB Corsair MP600 are 100% used. I already ordered 18 new. I know i could replot directly on hdds but 6 mins is too much compared to 50 sec plot time.

I didnā€™t leave my job as a lawyer, but I wish! My XCH golden parachute malfunctioned.

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Well at least Iā€™m still on vacation and above the SOD!!!

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Did your ETH golden parachute malfunction, or did you manage to get out of that project unscathed ?

I was thinking of your msgs and I have a big argument.
I think is better for us all Chia lose its control over XCH. untill last year own more than 70%. Not good for business also. Right ?

Could beā€¦it should stand on its own, if it is to survive. Not sure how much control they haveā€¦that is other than selling into the market large amounts of XCH to fund there operation and depress the price. Thatā€™s plenty, way too much IYAM.

I broke even on my ETH adventures. Sold at the ATH and sold the hardware before they flipped to PoS.

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Very good you did. I didnt. I didnt believe they will go to PoS.
So, I kept everything. You are good exiting in the right moment.
Good for u.

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Time will tell, my friend, time will tellā€¦

(OK did not want to add ā€œmy friendā€ and repetition, but donā€™t really had a choice.)

This is important.
He said it was a $20 coin.
He was correct.