Chia gain is too low

By the way, which chia version are you running?

There was a long thread on github in July or so about big farms (one was around 50 PB) not winning anymore. There was basically a standard lame response from chia. My understanding is that it was related to v1.2 and potentially one/two that followed.

Iā€™m on Linux, latest version (1.2.11).

Iā€™ll look for that thread and see if I can learn anything from it.

Still I hope to find a technical solution and not a plot to steal, pun intended.

People have already suggested the best way for you to move forward (e.g., farmr, foxypool). What I would also do is to replot ~20TB of your plots as NFT plots, and join a pool with those plots (Flex, Space). Maybe you will see some stale results with those plots. If you browse those pools/farmers, you will see that actually a lot of farmers have huge percentage of stale results, potentially not knowing about those. I assume that if those farmers would be doing solo farming, they would not even be able to tell that there is something wrong on their side. Also, maybe somehow your farmer is overloaded.

The problem for me with OG plots is that as long as your logs are clean, there is not much you can do, to check the health of your farm.

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Joining a pool will not solve anything.

If there could be stale plots then where is log warning/error or GUI info to tell me.
Looking for stale plots is a wild goose chase. All computers have low CPU usage, all timings on all harvesters are good, HDDs respond under a second.

Pools are for smaller miners and they take percentage for them selves. Our farm is big enough for solo, we should have 8 chia per month and we are getting none in past 3 months and since the beginning always way below calculated.

So devs, how about you give us a GUI tab with all the important info so we donā€™t have to guess or be forced to join the pool that take percentage of our rewards?

This is suppose to be easy thing to do and it is far from being easy if you have to guess what is wrong.

No good Chia people, Chia is useless in a state it is right now.

A pool will help, its that or realise predicated rewards are estimates, and donā€™t fall exactly as the gui says.
Even the gui says it could take 3 to 4 times longer to win.
I had over 500tb and got no reward for 60 days, so I joined a pool, within a week my non pooled 200tb of OG plots hit a block, and my 300tb pooled hit 2 blocks.

Either learn patience or join a pool.

Pools charge under 1%, its not much to get regular payments, its that, or suck it up and wait.

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Chances of winning 0 blocks in three months is 0% as calculated by Chias own recommended excel spreadsheet.
How will Pools help me? It will help pool owners that is for sure, for me it is a waste of time, there is something wrong here my fella.

Either learn math and reading carefully or quit promoting pools.

Youā€™re talking probabilities , Iā€™m not a mathematician, Iā€™ll only say even that spreadsheet is a predicted normal.
Itā€™s not a guarantee, and there are always edge cases that donā€™t follow the rules exactly.

Youā€™re saying you have no errors.

But you listed errors in your OP.

Any pre validate spendbundle over 1 sec gives a warning, so if youā€™re not getting warnings your on an old release.
You shouldnā€™t be running such an old version.

If ur gonna be an ass I wonā€™t even try and help, good luck with your expensive fcuk up!

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And thatā€™s based on averages, there are ALWAYS exceptions!

When people start using words as fc*k and similar I know I hit the spot.

Letā€™s focus on this:

  1. If Chia is supposed to be for everyone, why are not there clear warnings for what is wrong, why push everyone to pools? Itā€™s not that complicated, it smells like a scam.

  2. Mathematical chance of close to 0 is almost impossible and it should happen to one person not to large group of people with large farms so that there are whole discussions. In order for that to happen it has to be obvious.

  3. Iā€™m getting to fourth month and chances for winning 5 chias is 0%, 1% for 6 chias etc. For anyone who is smart enough to understand anything about life, that is enough evidence to look for issues to slove, not recommend pools based on some assumption that something no one can check is wrong.

Yep, you showed you can be a jerk, if thatā€™s your intent congrats.

Iā€™d have more respect for you if you hadnā€™t been a big girl and hidden your statement before growing balls again.

If you want help, donā€™t be an ass, pretty simple logic, even you should get that.

Itā€™s not for everyone, it never was, it was stated it wouldnā€™t pay if you were buying hardware just to farm

Youā€™re ignoring my fact that there are always exceptions, ppl lose in casinos every day thinking they can predict random events, ultimately they lose.

You can check, but you clearly donā€™t know what to check, and it seems would rather try to act big around ppl trying to help than listen.
If you donā€™t listen, youā€™ll never learn.

For anyone reading I have no intention arguing with people who use curse words in order to hide their incompetence or cover up obvious scams. So mr. Bones if you are reading you just strongly indicated to me and rest that you are a shill and that Chia is a SCAM.

Bones is using standard scammer techniques for redirecting a debate on some unintelligent personal level since he canā€™t push me in to pools nicely and has no arguments or helpful advice.

Bones started with ā€œlearn patienceā€ and ended with f words. He admits he has no clue about math but still talking about edge cases and such. That might work in little girls and small children but even little girl would rip you a new one.

I have no errors in my OP. They are all checked and OK as stated by other people on different threads.
Regarding pre_validate_spendbundle, Iā€™m on latest release and there is a warning but itā€™s normal as sated by other people on other threads since there are only few of those messages.

So for anyone else still reading, what is wrong? Skip pool and chances, and do something to fix this in future releases. If nothing gets fixed Iā€™ll advise to this farm owner and couple others to sell all chias and everyone else will be advised against it.

I never invested a buck in to Chia and Iā€™m payed to investigate in what is wrong with everyone.

You really are special.
My farms earning while youā€™re in a hole, but to proud to listen.

As I said before, good luck with your expensive fcuk up.

If your paid, youā€™ve done a shit job, easy money I guess.

If you think chia is a scam, and would rather believe that than listen to ppl who know better, you dont deserve to be paid.

Iā€™ve been here long enough that ppl know me I can be an ass, but need a push, I now chuckle when I see wasya having issues, as he was as responsive to my help as you, then the idiot who wrote nonsense consistently who upset/ annoyed nearly everyone here.

I can be nice, but you get treat how you treat, pretty simple.

If Chia was profitable network space would just keep on growing because EVERYONE WOULD INVEST IN IT.

Instead more and more people are selling off for a quite some time.
I wrote to this forum just to make sure and everything going on here proves Iā€™m right.

Your earn by being a scammer. Chia is as stated by everyone promoting the project for everyone but it is slowly turning in to obvious scam.

Utterly nonsense, whereā€™s the drop in netspace?

Your the scammer, getting paid to research and ignoring advice, pot, kettle, black.

Chia doesnā€™t pay me ffs, grow up.

Either learn patience or join a pool. If ur gonna be an ass I wonā€™t even try and help. good luck with your expensive fcuk up! Youā€™re talking probabilities , Iā€™m not a mathematician. there are always edge cases. If ur gonna be an ass. And thatā€™s based on averages, there are ALWAYS exceptions! Iā€™m not a mathematician. Yep, you showed you can be a jerk. if you hadnā€™t been a big girl and hidden your statement before growing balls. Youā€™re ignoring my fact. ppl lose in casinos every day thinking they can predict random events, ultimately they lose. Iā€™m not a mathematician. If you donā€™t listen, youā€™ll never learn. As I said before, good luck with your expensive fcuk up. As I said before, good luck with your expensive fcuk up.

And wtf was the point of that?