# Streaming Payments Puzzle for XCH/CATs

**URL:** <https://chiaforum.com/t/streaming-payments-puzzle-for-xch-cats/301>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [February 3, 2025, 9:58pm UTC](https://chiaforum.com/t/streaming-payments-puzzle-for-xch-cats/301 "2025-02-03T21:58:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![yakuhito](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/chiaforum.com/yakuhito/32/65_2.png) [@yakuhito](https://chiaforum.com/u/yakuhito)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 9:58pm UTC](https://chiaforum.com/t/streaming-payments-puzzle-for-xch-cats/301/1 "2025-02-03T21:58:18Z")

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[Michael Taylor](https://github.com/MichaelTaylor3D) and I just posted a [CHIP](https://github.com/Chia-Network/chips/pull/142) for a puzzle that enables ‘continuous payments’ on Chia!

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**Author:** ![Diego\_Pennino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e56c9b/32.png) [@Diego\_Pennino](https://chiaforum.com/u/Diego_Pennino)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 3:51pm UTC](https://chiaforum.com/t/streaming-payments-puzzle-for-xch-cats/301/2 "2025-02-11T15:51:58Z")

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Can this be used for universal basic income?

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**Author:** ![hoffmang](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/chiaforum.com/hoffmang/32/17_2.png) [@hoffmang](https://chiaforum.com/u/hoffmang)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 7:08am UTC](https://chiaforum.com/t/streaming-payments-puzzle-for-xch-cats/301/4 "2025-02-12T07:08:32Z")

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The vast majority pre farm is already locked up in a 90 day timelock:

> **[Custody Tool Description | Chia Documentation](https://docs.chia.net/guides/custody-tool-description/)**
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> The majority of Chia Network Inc's prefarm is being held in a cold wallet, secured by a complex set of custodial rules. This document will describe the details of the custodial arrangement. A moderate level of technical proficiency is probably needed...

But facts aren’t convenient to the narrative you’re trying to spin.

Sit back and enjoy as we bring billions of Wall Street dollars on chain this year.

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**Author:** ![hoffmang](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/chiaforum.com/hoffmang/32/17_2.png) [@hoffmang](https://chiaforum.com/u/hoffmang)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 3:27pm UTC](https://chiaforum.com/t/streaming-payments-puzzle-for-xch-cats/301/6 "2025-02-12T15:27:48Z")

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You’re lying about the pre farm custody. It takes 90 days no matter what.

As I said in the other thread, you can lock your own funds first. Drop it.

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**Author:** ![arvind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a6a055/32.png) [@arvind](https://chiaforum.com/u/arvind)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 4:59pm UTC](https://chiaforum.com/t/streaming-payments-puzzle-for-xch-cats/301/7 "2025-02-12T16:59:24Z")

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> [@hoffmang](#):
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> You’re lying about the pre farm custody. It takes 90 days no matter what

You lied about prefarm controls. You said the entire prefarm would be rate limited and then you removed the ability.

This is what you deleted:  
@click.option(“-r”, “–rate”, help=“Mojos that can be withdrawn per second”, required=True)

source:

> <https://github.com/Chia-Network/internal-custody/pull/42/files/3067e357868f19a7cfc99ab2191cecfef6d63f97>

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**Author:** ![hoffmang](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/chiaforum.com/hoffmang/32/17_2.png) [@hoffmang](https://chiaforum.com/u/hoffmang)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2025, 6:03pm UTC](https://chiaforum.com/t/streaming-payments-puzzle-for-xch-cats/301/8 "2025-02-12T18:03:28Z")

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Stop cross posting. Being stupid in one thread is enough.