Hi all, need a tool/script to fix 100 percent crash HDD by USB port Farming

I disagree. Ive had windows servers for just the same time as well without a single reboot.
my windows server is up for 161 days as of right now, no single issue:

In fact I had more fatal issues with ubuntu so far. One single typo, and your system is garbage.
Nvidia drivers blocking your whole package management, etc.
I have ubuntu servers running fine now. But boy, what a pain that was. I would definitely not say that Linux is more stable per see.

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My plotter / harvester – Windows 10 Home, with no internet connection:

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One single typo, and your system is garbage.

there you go, infamous chair/keyboard syndrome :stuck_out_tongue:

i do not like Win platform for anything serious because of MS Self-Fuck TM system…every update…restart, and P&P (Plug & Pray). Windows is like modern princesses…high maintenance, little or no real use.

of course, there is not bad or good…just badly used.

why the hell you people still run plotter on Windows is beyond my economical understanding…you lose instantly at least 20%…not to mention RAM disk is crap, instable.

I am guessing from that screenshot, you are running PBO 2 on 5950X…it uses +30% more energy while giving you 1% more plots/day than using manual OC. I run same CPU with 4.3GHz @ 1.15V…170Wh or 52W/plot.

The reason why the hell my people and I run our plotters on Windows is because those are the boxes that we already have, and also because Windows is the OS that we are familiar with.

Also, when I (and perhaps my people) started with Chia, it was our first venture into digital currency. I did not want to complicate matters by installing an OS that I would have to learn. If a problem arose, then troubleshooting whether it was a Chia issue or an OS issue would have made things very difficult.

In my case, I started off with a Gigabyte motherboard (the only one I could get my hands on during the shortage), and my USB drives constantly disconnected. It turned out to be a BIOS issue, which Gigabyte acknowledged, released new versions, and yet the issue persisted – and they are impossible to contact in any way.

Had I been using Ubuntu, I never would have nailed down the problem.
Someone that has Linux admin skills would have handled it. But that’s not me.

What is “PBO 2”?

By the way, you are correct that the Windows plotter is slower; significantly slower.

Some months ago, I was using my i5 laptop to create k34 plots.
My first attempts were via a Linux boot flash drive. I chose MX Linux.

Sometime later, I discovered that for Windows, the only file you need is “chia_plot_k34.exe” (there are no other dependencies). I was reluctant to install Chia on my Windows laptop, and now I did not have to. I needed only the one executable.

Well, it took way, way longer to complete a k34 plot, compared to MX Linux and ext4.

When I started out with Chia, I knew none of the above. So I went with Windows.

Linux desktop experience is the same/similar as Windows for at least 10 years. Monkey can install it, and run it.

PBO is that automatic overclocking crap in BIOS.

If you do not know basic stuff, how do you want to play with IT?

k34 plots is same bollock like Windows plotting…you lose 33%

That is true.
Also true is that if you asked 1,000 Windows users how to install Linux, 99% of them would probably say “What’s Linux?”.

People have to know that the installation is easy, in order to know that the installation is easy. But they don’t know.

And none of that would help casual computer users to troubleshoot the Gigabyte USB issue with the B550 motherboards.

It seems basic after you become experienced.
Playing with the gear is one way to gain experience.

I think that it is closer to 6%.

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how did you figure out?

it is well known firmware issue for at least two years…affecting all 5xx series AMD motherboards. If you play with new tech, you have to follow news…especially, with weird PC behaviour…you wait for new BIOS/AGESA FW like an addict for drugs :stuck_out_tongue:

My ASUS X570 MB got at least 10x new BIOS in last two years…AMD Ryzen 3xxx/5xxx vs PCIe 4.0 vs USB issues. Forums were full of whining :wink:

It has nothing to do with OS

I think that it is closer to 6%.

know is do - if you must think, it means you have no idea while trying to figure out solution for the problem. It is well-known fact that poor refuse to understand :stuck_out_tongue:

Yes, the OS has nothing to do with that USB related BIOS issue.
But non tech savvy people will not know how to determine the trigger or root cause of the USB disconnecting issue.

If you were using an OS that is foreign to you, then you would have that to deal with. You would not know that the OS was not responsible. You would know only that your USB drives were disconnecting.

The above is only one example of a problem that could arise.
That is the reason for using the OS with which you have experience.

Recommending to people to use an OS that they do not know, and start crypt-o mining for the first time, is irresponsible.

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I think that it is closer to 6%.

How do you “know” that it k34 plots lose 33%, compared to k32 plots?
What is your source?

I have simple strategy for at least 30 years DO NOT USE WHAT YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND. If you cannot even start PC, what do you want to do with it? I recall teaching my IT teacher about IT in school in 1995 ROFL She had no idea about new tech, yet they forced her to teach it :smiley:

If you wanna play with something RTFM, UTFG…30 years ago we had just classical RTFM. Nowadays, almost everything is on Internet…yet people are dumbest in whole history, too lazy to learn anything or even use brain.

simple troubleshooting is like teaching cat barking. if you cannot do it, why the hell would you even try? I recall, most couldn’t even start/shut down PC 30 years ago or even install Windows…process is same since Win 1.0 :wink: Just nowadays, you have all basic drivers already in.

read the post, it has been run by various people. you can try it yourself. plotting anything over k32 makes no sense…once, it will be mandatory…replotting will be faster 10 years later than is now. Why the hell would you waste your resources?

I plot for 0.05$/plot…it takes 2 months just to repay plot now. Why would I want 3 months? HDD ROI is now 6-8 years. Why waste resources in low profit times?

Or are you one of those lambo kids waiting for BTC 200k $, and Chia back to rug-pull times of 1600$ ?

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Will just add my 2c on this thread. I started with Chia on Win like many folks and ran in to USB issues as soon as I started moving a lot of data from on-board NVMe or SSDs to external USB 3.0 HDDs especially when I was copying to 4+ disks at a time. Win logs were no help as the external disks appeared to randomly disconnect. I thought it may have been an issue with my 16-port USB hub but I changed that and issues persisted. Heck I even RMA’ed my brand new Dark Hero X570 MB and replacement was doing the same thing. I then tried Linux and started to monitor the kernel log. Kernel log in Linux started to give me hints on what may be causing the issue as the problem was reproducible in Linux as well but at least there I had more detail info. On my specific MB I finally found a fix/workaround to this issue which had something to do with IOMMU and if I recall correctly I had to disable it which resolved the problem. I hope this helps with your issue. IOMMU is an AMD specific virtualization tech so if you are running Intel CPU then it is likely not relevant. One other thing to note is that most USB controllers have a limit of how many total devices they will support. If you go over the limit the last devices connected/detected will not be reachable or other issues may occur even if there is no clearly defend limit in the USB controller firmware like random device disconnections.

On the other topic regarding Linux vs Windows, the above experience started to turn me away from Win. Once MadMax came out and I’ve noticed the performance loss of ~20% on Win I completely ditched Win and switch to Linux as my daily home driver. If you are a noob to Linux I suggest you try Linux Mint (/w Cinamon) or possibly PopOS! (Ubuntu based) both of which should be fairly easy for beginners although you cannot go wrong with pure Ubuntu as you will find out that software/hardware vendors that support Linux will likely support Ubuntu among some other popular Linux variants. If you know nothing about Linux then hop on YouTube and start searching for how-to videos as there are plenty just try to focus on videos made within the last year or so as just like with any other tech things become obsolete quickly and you may be pulling your hair out for nothing following old/outdated instructions. At this time I have a dual boot system with Linux and Win 11 on another NVMe but Win 11 is rarely booted. I only keep Win 11 for when I have to update some HW firmware and vendor releases that for Win only :confused: Oh and my fastest single K32 plot on Linux with 5950X & MaxMax was just over 1100sec :wink: not counting transfer to perm HDD. Lastly, in my honest opinion as an IT pro who has been using Win, Mac, Linux and some other less know OS’es for decades I suggest that everyone tries Linux as Win will only get much worse from now on, as already illustrated by Win 11 and it’s slow adoption, since MS openly stated they are not in the OS business anymore and just like Google they want to be in marketing business which means they want to sell to you based on your product usage including Win usage. There is A LOT of telemetry sent back to MS already and Win 11 starts to show where MS is headed. Win 11 search is just one example while Edge browser will keep bugging you to login with a MS account so they can keep tracking you. Just compare the license agreements between Win 7, Win 10 (arbitration clause hidden which is likely why MS offered free upgrades for a LONG time), and Win 11 (arbitration clause is the first sentence in BOLD!). Bottom line is that by staying with Win you are paying MS to be their beta tester! Many stats (ex: Steam gaming stats) show that Linux adoption is increasing, whether that is because of recent advancements which improve support for gaming on Linux or other reasons Win is slowly dying.

2C all this is more like a $1.49 plus tax…

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Obviously I’m bias but there’s a good chance FlexFarmer would solve this problem. It places a lot less load on your disks.

Check guides on this forum for setup instructions.

Lots of people on this forum had problems which FF fixed. It’s not 100% but it’s definitely one of the first things you should try instead of getting into a lot of complicated details.

The difference between FF and the chia farmer is like the difference between madMax and the chia plotter.

The text describes the author’s experience with using Chia, a cryptocurrency, on a Windows operating system. They encountered USB issues when transferring large amounts of data from NVMe or SSDs to external USB 3.0 HDDs. The author attempted to troubleshoot the issue using Windows logs but found them to be unhelpful.
They then switched to using Linux and found that the issue was reproducible there but that the kernel log provided more detailed information. The author found that the issue had something to do with IOMMU and that disabling it resolved the problem.
The author also mentions that most USB controllers have a limit of how many total devices they will support and that going over this limit can cause issues. The author then expresses their opinion on Linux vs Windows, stating that the experience turned them away from Windows and that they switched to Linux as their daily driver. They recommend Linux Mint or PopOS as good options for beginners. They suggest that everyone should try Linux as Windows is likely to get worse in the future.

for the sake of ai :innocent:

I agree with the last part:

They suggest that everyone should try Linux as Windows is likely to get worse in the future.

The main issue of Linux is adoption, which is holding me off.
Hence, for my servers, I use Linux for the most part. For my Desktop use, I use Windows. Im not a fan of emulated apps.

Do you remember having to recompile the kernel every time you made a change in Linux. Then you had make a boot loader. I know a lot has changed in 30 years. People should experiment to learn that’s the only way it happens. But depending on one’s needs and time people make choices.



How is that working for you? :laughing:

The main issue with Linux adoption is that people are lazy by nature. Not everyone, obviously, but most. They learn something, get comfortable and miss on everything else that could benefit them just because it takes time to learn.

Just a simple question, what year did you start to use and learn Linux?

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I have tried Linux around 6 Times since 2012.
Each Time I got frustrated, (drivers not working, confusion about different ways to do things in different distros and versions, Software not available, …, …)

I am now at the point that I am able to use Ubuntu server in a basic form (setup, install software, write bash scripts and my own software and create services). It has been hell of a ride.

I’ve had everything, from switching network interface names over nvidia drivers blocking ALL updates because of certificate/keyring issues and graphics driver which auto install gnome on a headless server which in turn changes all kinds of settings such as auto-update and auto sleep.

I definitely wouldn’t recommend starting out with linux if you want to start a project and the project shouldnt primairly be tinkering with linux.
Yes, once you get it running, it runs for the most part (until a system or package update breaks everything) but so does windows server. (and yes, there are headless versions as well. Gnome/ui takes a lot of resources on linux as well so one should compare apples to apples)

I am in IT for 30+ years, and Win is crap since 1.0 :wink:

It is getting only worst over the years. Problem is, most real life apps are only on Win platform.

We are whining about industry standard CAD/CAM for macOS or Linux for at least 10 years…Apple said “there is not enough demand” We paid 3500€ for CAD/CAM workstation…same stuff is 10k in Apple

Linux world didn’t manage to unify for at least 20 years…Ubuntu, Red Hat tries for years…never caught up in desktop arena. I played games in Ubuntu…it is faster than Win. Who plays games on PC nowadays? Post-apocalyptic kids barely can switch on PS, Xbox.