Missing signage points meaning and cause

Chia Farming & Harvesting
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Hi there,

Chia newb enthusiast here. I run it on PC with some internal and external drives but don’t know any advanced stuff and don’t follow the project too closely.
I have recently upgraded my chia client to version 2.0 and after a few days, I’ve noticed that the farm section now displays Missing signage points: 30.
Can someone please explain to me what the “Missing signage points” concept is and what the cause for that could be? Or at least refer me to some well-explained documentation, if possible.

Thanks in advance!

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I’m wondering the same thing.

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I don’t think anyone really knows, I’ve seen explanations that it could be a broadband/internet issues.

General consensus seems to be as long as the daily total is not high don’t worry about it. I usually have a few now and then, and click reset.

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could be something like “stale” in mining days? if two farmers, hit the same block…the slower lost/missed signage point

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@Captain_Plots-a-lot you are something else :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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if you experience those while self_pooling then most probably your setup/hardware has an issue or two.

if you pooling ask for support from your pool guys.

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Yes, I am self pooling. Do you have any advice on the steps I should take to figure out if there are issues with my setup?

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lets start with the logs shall we?

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I love the discussion!

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I’ve got 28 missing signage points in 24 hours, but what should I be looking for in the logs?

Searching for “missing” results in nothing. Log level is set to info.

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if there is none then where do you see them?

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On the GUI,

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ohh gui … good luck with that :slight_smile:

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I’ll probably stop using the GUI when the higher compression GH plots come out.

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i gave up so i did, furthermore i think I finally found the culprit for downgrading the rewards rating - the gui.

since i quit it i back to normal with my usual rewards ratio

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Maybe the logs contain “missed”, rather than “missing”?
Search for “miss”, case insensitive.

I do not know if that will match any hits. But it is worth a look.

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Good idea, but…

I opened all logs in Notepad++, searched all open documents for “miss”, case insensitive, only hits were 7 results as below, so none the wiser.

Line  96860: 2023-08-18T22:28:39.293 farmer chia.plot_sync.receiver    : INFO     reset: node_id removed_node_id, current_sync: [state 0, sync_id 0, next_message_id 0, plots_processed 0, plots_total 0, delta [valid +0/-0, invalid +0/-0, keys missing: +0/-0, duplicates: +0/-0], time_done None]
	Line 113254: 2023-08-19T00:58:59.343 farmer chia.plot_sync.receiver    : INFO     reset: node_id removed_node_id, current_sync: [state 0, sync_id 0, next_message_id 0, plots_processed 0, plots_total 0, delta [valid +0/-0, invalid +0/-0, keys missing: +0/-0, duplicates: +0/-0], time_done None]
	Line 186983: 2023-08-20T19:25:23.990 farmer chia.plot_sync.receiver    : INFO     reset: node_id removed_node_id, current_sync: [state 0, sync_id 0, next_message_id 0, plots_processed 0, plots_total 0, delta [valid +0/-0, invalid +0/-0, keys missing: +0/-0, duplicates: +0/-0], time_done None]
	Line 230269: 2023-08-21T19:07:20.318 farmer chia.plot_sync.receiver    : INFO     reset: node_id removed_node_id, current_sync: [state 0, sync_id 0, next_message_id 0, plots_processed 0, plots_total 0, delta [valid +0/-0, invalid +0/-0, keys missing: +0/-0, duplicates: +0/-0], time_done None]
  C:\Users\ChiaMining\.chia\mainnet\log\debug.log.3 (2 hits)
	Line 200031: 2023-09-09T13:19:01.061 farmer chia.plot_sync.receiver    : INFO     reset: node_id removed_node_id, current_sync: [state 0, sync_id 0, next_message_id 0, plots_processed 0, plots_total 0, delta [valid +0/-0, invalid +0/-0, keys missing: +0/-0, duplicates: +0/-0], time_done None]
	Line 210568: 2023-09-09T23:34:17.827 farmer chia.plot_sync.receiver    : INFO     reset: node_id removed_node_id, current_sync: [state 0, sync_id 0, next_message_id 0, plots_processed 0, plots_total 0, delta [valid +0/-0, invalid +0/-0, keys missing: +0/-0, duplicates: +0/-0], time_done None]
  C:\Users\ChiaMining\.chia\mainnet\log\debug.log.6 (1 hit)
	Line 165153: 2023-08-25T19:53:54.203 farmer chia.plot_sync.receiver    : INFO     reset: node_id removed_node_id, current_sync: [state 0, sync_id 0, next_message_id 0, plots_processed 0, plots_total 0, delta [valid +0/-0, invalid +0/-0, keys missing: +0/-0, duplicates: +0/-0], time_done None]
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cat .chia/.../log/debug.log | grep ERROR

if there is no error, second issue is usually old GPUs if you use one. I have Quadro M4400, which appears to be farming but there is no load in nvtop

If you use MS Windows, the whole system is ERROR

if you are 100% sure your rig is properly setup…do clean chia reinstall…there are still many bugs that do weird things.

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Using a 3060. Apart from resetting the total I’ve done nothing, and had no missing signage points for a few days.

Sorry, I don’t take much notice of people which have such a blinkered view of Windows! I on the other hand appreciate people have a choice, and all OSes have their negatives and positive, but please let’s not get into that argument, I use what I use for reasons. That’s Linux for plotting, and Windows for everything else.

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on DOS since 1994
on Win since v1.0
Linux since 2002
FreeBSD/macOS since 2011

Win is good only for games that do not exist on Linux/macOS yet, CAD, CAM…everything else Unix-like systems :stuck_out_tongue: