10 plots but no XCH awards, is something wrong?

Hello I just started a few days ago and I have 10 plots of land, but I have 0XCH constantly, but I am constantly building a plot, but no xch is coming, I am sure there is something wrong please wait for help

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So sorry to hear this. Plot faster!

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I do not think this counts as an “emergency” so I am changing the topic title…

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no. nothing wrong, sorry to say so.
those with hundreds of plots also experience days or a week without win…
since network grows so fast, difficulty is rising.
small farmers like you will only have a chance to win if joining a pool… there you get your share constantly - but this would require replotting using pool keys
its a long term project, but in the end it will pay out…

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it’s completely normal, I have currently 130 plots and just won 2 xch. patience… :man_farmer:

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I have a large number of plots (over 3000) and haven’t won a single chia in 96 hours… so… this stuff happens… remember it’s partly chance, not a guarantee! Be patient, plot, and wait.

(And make sure that you are seeing incoming entries in the Last Attempted Proof and Latest Block Challenges part of the UI – this means you are connected to the network and getting the tests needed to win!)

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Wow, that might be the most stark example of how much the network has increased if you have THAT many plots and have gone 4 days without a reward.

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Yeah, something is definitely up. I think the network is growing much faster than shown.

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That is really worrying. Chance of no wins in 4 days with 3000 plots at current netspace estimate (575 TiB) is 0.01%…

Good luck, at any rate, looks like you need it :sweat_smile:

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Yeah I am definitely concerned. Last win was Sunday. :sob: I’m sure I am connected because I am on latest client, and I see stuff coming through on Last Attempted Proof and Latest Block Challenges regularly…

(This does prove the estimates are very wrong, as your math shows. That’s the only possible explanation.)

all I can do is keep plotting, keep farming, and hope…

May also be worth checking the logs for the response time… (need to change the log level to INFO in the config yaml first… I recommend doing this anyway and occasionally tailing it to see the activity).

 ~/.chia/mainnet/log: cat debug.log | grep eligible
2021-04-23T14:10:47.512 harvester chia.harvester.harvester: INFO     0 plots were eligible for farming fc6e73123a... Found 0 proofs. Time: 2.97617 s. Total 206 plots

I found that during some activity this response time was crazy slow (100-300s). I stopped plotting/copying on my farm machine and it’s all good now.

also, I haven’t won any, but I’ve only been at this for 1 week and grew to >200 plots.

Actually, I’m not so sure anymore:

HPool, who have been winning 25% of the last 10,000 blocks, currently have 200 PB of netspace according to their own statistics and have been hovering at 30% of the total netspace estimate for the past few days.

So unless they’re faking their statistics (I’d be impressed) or counting their members’ contributions wrong (unlikely, since that’s centralised and they need this for accounting), the estimates we see in the client are slightly too low, not by orders of magnitude :thinking:

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Good joke. I have > 1k plots and I havent won anything from 4 days now - I should win every day.

Network grew by 100 PB (20%) in just two days from 21.04.2021 to 23.04.2021
Do you think we reached more than 1 Exabyte?

The main thing I learned is to check your debug log! you definitely want to address any errors or warnings you find there, for sure.

Thank you all for your answers, I think I fully understood the subject, I wanted to make sure that I took the right steps as I planned the investment, thank you all, good luck.

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It may be worth reiterating how you win a plot:

  • You start the GUI and your full node needs to sync and stay synced with the node peers at the latest height. If you aren’t staying synced with the latest height (check chiaexplorer.com to see) troubleshoot why.

  • Only run ONE full node per home network, and learn about harvesters or turn off uPNP on the other nodes if you insist.

  • Learn how to port forward port 8444 to it if you can for more reliable connections to the network. Google "port forward "

  • You need to have plot files that show up in your farmer. Read up on how to plot and don’t use up your computer’s boot SSD as they wear out. Make sure they’re listed in your farming tab, add additional drives on your plot tab.

  • You can turn on more logging in your debug.log by editing your config file and changing WARNING to INFO.

  • Blocks (Chances to win) come about every 10 seconds.
    Every one of your plots has a 1/512 chance at each block.
    If you pass that ‘plot filter’ then the plot file is searched for a good ‘proof of space’ that will pass at the current difficulty. If your proof of space is good, your farmer will try to get it to a timelord for creation of a vdf. If you’ve done this within 30 seconds and yours is the one that gets a successful VDF you will likely win that block!

  • Currently your reward is 2XCH or 2 chia tokens. It’s delivered in a slightly later transaction block to the rewards address you set in the farming tab rewards address. 1/8 to the farmer reward and 7/8 to the pool reward address. (Which for now should be the same public address for you, until pools are introduced in the future).

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4 days of 3100 plots and no proofs found. Yea I feel bad for the little guy but hell even us bigger ones are not finding any proofs. Unless you are going to go big 1PB+ I don’t think chia is going to be worth anyone’s effort.

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That seems off. You did checks and everything right? no >30second response times?

No remote harvester.

All daemon Full Node + Farmer + Harvester + Wallet is running locally on a supermicro server with 72 bays so I don’t have to deal with any network latency. Plot checking is very fast.

2021-04-28T21:29:43.403 harvester chia.harvester.harvester: INFO     3 plots were eligible for farming e5c58eb2e8... Found 0 proofs. Time: 0.26951 s. Total 3153 plots
2021-04-28T21:29:54.114 harvester chia.harvester.harvester: INFO     8 plots were eligible for farming e5c58eb2e8... Found 0 proofs. Time: 0.38986 s. Total 3153 plots
2021-04-28T21:30:00.918 harvester chia.harvester.harvester: INFO     6 plots were eligible for farming e5c58eb2e8... Found 0 proofs. Time: 0.32288 s. Total 3153 plots
2021-04-28T21:30:08.725 harvester chia.harvester.harvester: INFO     9 plots were eligible for farming e5c58eb2e8... Found 0 proofs. Time: 0.31728 s. Total 3153 plots
2021-04-28T21:30:18.066 harvester chia.harvester.harvester: INFO     5 plots were eligible for farming e5c58eb2e8... Found 0 proofs. Time: 0.30270 s. Total 3153 plots
2021-04-28T21:30:26.863 harvester chia.harvester.harvester: INFO     8 plots were eligible for farming e5c58eb2e8... Found 0 proofs. Time: 0.32590 s. Total 3153 plots
2021-04-28T21:30:33.735 harvester chia.harvester.harvester: INFO     9 plots were eligible for farming e5c58eb2e8... Found 0 proofs. Time: 0.32267 s. Total 3153 plots
2021-04-28T21:30:41.553 harvester chia.harvester.harvester: INFO     4 plots were eligible for farming e5c58eb2e8... Found 0 proofs. Time: 0.21286 s. Total 3153 plots
2021-04-28T21:30:50.261 harvester chia.harvester.harvester: INFO     8 plots were eligible for farming e5c58eb2e8... Found 0 proofs. Time: 0.28070 s. Total 3153 plots

Also no issues with missing any signage points, I get all of them in sequence. also have 60 or 70 peers. I mean it all looks good. Even ran the chia plot check across ALL plots and all passed around 30-31 each. No errors in the logs. I think its all legit as far as I can tell, its just thats how difficult the network is already.

chia show -s
Current Blockchain Status: Full Node Synced
...

~/.chia/mainnet/config$ chia farm summary
Farming status: Farming
Total chia farmed: 12.0
User transaction fees: 0.0
Block rewards: 12.0
Last height farmed: REDACTED
Plot count: 3153
Total size of plots: 312.099 TiB
Estimated network space: 1053.403 PiB
Expected time to win: 13 hours and 32 minutes

Its just ridic with the expected time to win being 13 hours and yet I’m going on like 96 or something with nothing found.