Chia has so much potential! However, as a person with rudimentary understanding of the benefits of blockchain, what does XCH offer? The whitepaper makes a fantastic case for XCH and Chia seems to be developing a great codebase/platform for possibilities. But Chia seems so focused on building the platform that there is little to entice demand for XCH.
I’d love to see Chia communicate better with the ‘average’ person such as me. I’ve invested in BTC ETFs, but buying into XCH is difficult. Also BTC is driven by demand yet there is clearly little demand for XCH (as evidenced by the falling XCH price). I’d love to see a focus by Chia on creating demand. What do others think?
For example, from Climate – Chia Network, ‘The Climate Action Data Trust (CADT) is a decentralized metadata platform that harmonizes all major carbon registry data to enhance transparent accounting in line with Article 6 of the Paris Agreement.’ Um, ok, I’m a Ph.D. but this statement is way too high level and abstract; where is the messaging about how this impacts and benefits the average person?
Did you see the information about Permuto Capital and the work towards having the ability to buy and trade MSFT derived certificates (appreciation and dividend portions of MSFT to be separated into two certificates with the ability to trade them as CATs) onchain?
More info on Permuto:
The S1 for this:
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/2051974/000121390025003602/0001213900-25-003602-index.htm
Yes, this looks promising. I’m certainly not critical of the efforts of Chia to create uses for XCH. My issue is perception by the ‘average’ consumer. I understand that Chia is targeting corporates but I think there is an opportunity being missed by not also focusing on the average person out there. For example, how does the average person benefit from the Permuto initiative? Will the various explanations of the Permuto initiative excite the media to write about the amazing things Chia is doing? BTC is in the media so much because it’s benefits are simple to understand (and of course it’s rise in value); let’s get Chia and XCH all over the media!
Thanks. I hadn’t seen this. However, I’d just love for the benefits for the average person to be communicated.
End users are going to like using the Chia blockchain to invest in equities that out perform their original versions. The Permuto Trusts are for everyone.
I might be impressed if the whole “carbon credits” concept wasn’t based on the PROVEN FALSE narrative of the Green Lobby, and seems likely to eventually go “poof” when more folks realize the Green widespread PROVEN FALSE theory about “human caused global warming via CO2 levels” get widely known.
Hopefully the “stock trading” concept will prove to be a lot more viable, since it seems to be based on something real.
Carbon market is fairly complex. And it doesn’t quite revolve around a registry per se. Trading platform usually is the key driver for demand (of using a blockchain). It’s interesting that EcoRegistry or whoever isn’t pushing for more trade adoption. It may be that there are other unknown factors involved.
Having all voluntary carbon on the Chia blockchain served as an important reference customer with the SEC, commercial banks, and Wall Street. The politics around it are irrelevant when you’re more concerned with wether your organization can succeed with a project on Chia.
The World Bank having done deep research across chains and then successfully deploying to production really matters when talking to bank CTOs.
I may have missed it but my previous comment doesn’t deny that stance.
Absolutely — that’s a key point a lot of people miss. Having the World Bank and other major institutions actually deploy on Chia, not just run pilots, gives the project serious credibility. It’s one thing to talk about blockchain potential, but real-world adoption by organizations that operate under strict compliance frameworks hits differently.
When you’re dealing with banks, regulators, and enterprise CTOs, they care less about token price and more about reliability, auditability, and compliance. Chia’s approach — especially around carbon markets and transparent recordkeeping — positions it perfectly for that.
Politics and short-term noise aside, those kinds of institutional integrations are exactly what separate sustainable ecosystems from hype cycles. The fact that the World Bank chose Chia after evaluating multiple chains says a lot about its technical and governance maturity.
Chia is a component of UN Greenwashing Infrastructure
1. The Fraudulent Basis of the Carbon Market
The CADT has been exposed as largely fraudulent.
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UN Scheme Flaws: The UN’s own Clean Development Mechanism (CDM), which created many of the world’s first large-scale credits, has been widely criticized by environmental analysts for a massive lack of additionality (i.e., financing projects that would have happened anyway).
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Voluntary Market Scrutiny: Major investigations in recent years have found that a significant percentage of the nature-based credits issued by independent registries (like Verra), which form the backbone of the VCM, are “worthless” or vastly overstated in their climate impact.
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CADT’s Role: The CADT’s explicit purpose is to combat the double counting and lack of transparency that allowed these flaws to persist. It’s a digital solution to a governance problem and an ethical problem. It doesn’t fix the lack of additionality inherent in many credits; it only makes it easier to track the bad data once it’s created.
The CADT is an attempt to create trust in a product (carbon credits) that much of the market believes is fundamentally broken.
2. Chia’s Ongoing Income and Adoption Problem
A. Income to Farmers (Transaction Fees)
- Reality: As established, the current transaction volume is too low. The CADT and other enterprise adoptions are not generating the high volume of transactions needed to make the negligible fees a meaningful source of income for farmers. Farmers are currently reliant on the depreciated block reward, not CADT fees.
B. Income to Chia Inc. (The Company)
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The Model: Chia Inc. was paid for the initial consulting, development, and engineering to build the CADT’s infrastructure (the “Red Hat” model). This was a one-time project fee, not a perpetual royalty stream from the CADT’s usage.
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Ongoing Income: Their long-term revenue depends on selling support and maintenance contracts for the CADT and, more importantly, attracting new enterprise clients (banks, governments, supply chains) based on the CADT’s credibility.
C. Lack of Adoption Momentum
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Reality: While Chia highlights its focus on Real-World Assets (RWA) and its progress on regulatory-friendly tools like the Cloud Wallet and Signer, the search results confirm that the market has not yet responded with enthusiasm.
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The XCH price is down 82% YoY, and the daily trading volume is minimal, suggesting that institutional adoption is still a roadmap promise, not a revenue reality.
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The key partnerships like the CADT are being used as marketing tools to say, “The World Bank trusts us,” but the evidence of a flood of new clients “climbing on” as a result is missing.
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The Long Term BS Feeling: The entire narrative relies on a “if you build it, they will come” strategy. Chia has built high-quality, sustainable infrastructure, but without mass adoption to drive transaction fees, the economic model for the decentralized farmers fails, and the speculative value of the company remains tied to an IPO that is repeatedly postponed.
You are witnessing a technology company that has correctly identified a massive global problem (carbon market integrity) and built a technical solution (CADT), but the market demand and resulting financial returns have yet to prove that the solution is commercially viable.