Our plotter is highly optimized and does not require an SSD to make plots.
It stores temporary data on the same HDDs where plots will reside, unlike conventional plotters, which use an SSD for that purpose.
Plotting time will depend on how many HDDs you have:
Approximate plotting time for different PC configurations can be found on our help page.
If you have 128GiB of RAM or more, all temporary data will fit in memory, maximum plotting performance will be achieved and number of HDD will not matter.
2. 20-30% more reward with new compressed plot format
Our new compressed plots are 16-23% smaller than standard ones and thus generate 20-30% more Chia (for the same disk space).
You can choose compression level before plotting and our plotter will produce plots with corresponding size.
Smaller plots require more CPU work during mining for decompression.
3. Delegated plotting.
With our pool it is possible to delegate plot generation to another person without giving him the ability to mine on generated plots.
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Our client program works on Windows and Linux and performs all necessary operations (like plotting) automatically. No other software is required.
You will only need to specify directories for plots and Chia address for reward (and, optionally, plots compression level).
Plots are basically 99.8% random data that is not really compressible, so when you claim16-23% compression rate, you can take it to video streaming services like YT and make gazillions there.
It is not a scam. I am the developer of the plotting algorithm. Feel free to ask me questions. The current official plot format have many ways of optimizations in both plotting speed and the final plot size. It was optimized in size by core developers too, it was little bigger when Chia was first released. Remember? Iāve spent lots of time implementing this algorithm and this quick conclusions really hurts.
It hurst you, but it also hurts me. If it hurts me, I take valium and donāt talk about it, and suggest you do the same, instead of going the twitter road, as no one cares about yours or my hurt feelings. If you want me to provide a longer response, I will be happy to oblige, but donāt think we will go anywhere once it starts.
So, if you want to start over, this forum is for you, but donāt expect that anyone will be jumping from joy when you provide few dry and rather ridiculous claims. There are just too many malware providers, and Chia doesnāt do much to secure their platform.
If you want to be useful, there is another post next to this about k33/34 plot times. That would be a good place to start to earn some credibility points.
I can assume that you have found a way to more optimally store data inside the plot and thus reduce it size. But until this ānew compressed plot formatā is not supported by an official Chia client and the source code is not published, these plots will be useless outside your pool. So Iām not in.
No offense here buddy but your post reads like magic solutions and you are asking people to download a closed source program from a basically unknown source.
Reducing the plot size by as much as you say and still being completely compatible with the Chia blockchain and finding more proofs per TiB. For anyone to believe that you better have Bram or another core Chia dev confirming it, or nobody is going to buy it.
I guess, it is not just Bram and Chia lots. Both Max (MM) and Harrold (BB) provided far superior plotters yet didnāt notice a possibility to squeeze those plots by 20%.
Also, Max is working on his MMX blockchain, so I would assume that his new plotter that doesnāt need to be compatible with Chia plots would take advantage of any potential optimizations, and it doesnāt - basically the same size plots, same density.
I would also imagine that a pool (like Flex) would be interested in a partnership and providing a version of PoolNamePlotter-Farmer.
At the end of the day, it all boils down to HD space, not plots density, so assuming that this is a realistic claim, I have no doubts that we would soon see v1.5 version with a plotter providing the same density.
@Chris22 please donāt lie. We didnāt publish our sources and you didnāt see them.
@Jacek as I already said, plots arenāt random internally, the whole plot is built from a single 32 byte plotid string after all. Think about it.
Iāve added a special switch to the client --query <challenge>. Now anyone can verify that our plots are genuine. To verify:
download the client from our website
plot at least one plot, follow instructions in help or ask me if you have any troubles using it, we appreciate any help and ready to improve its usability
run it with query switch. For example Iāve run it with this command client -d /plots --query 793104a9d219394f60b60fd9f8673e1d422ba73e19089a60af59f1dd0a3fab9e and got two PoS:
Now I can verify it with chiapos (pip install chiapos), for example using this simple python snippet:
from chiapos import Verifier
from sys import argv
plotid = bytes.fromhex(argv[1])
challenge = bytes.fromhex(argv[2])
proof = bytes.fromhex(argv[3])
if len(plotid) != 32 or len(challenge) != 32 or len(proof) != 256:
print("usage: verify.py <plotid> <challenge> <proof>")
exit(1)
if not Verifier().validate_proof(plotid, 32, challenge, proof):
print("Proof is not ok")
else:
print("Proof is ok")
You can plot this plotid yourself using another plotter or run query multiple times to check that no data is missing from the plot.
I am very serious guys. This is not a hoax. Iāve spend a year learning every single aspect and detail of Chia plotting algorithm. I can write a dissertation on it.
@Voodoo the pool only launched yesterday we didnāt mine any block yet and there were no payments to our miners. Join our pool and we will mine it faster!
My guess is he means people have gone over the existing plotters line by line.
You seem to mean youāre a better coder/algorithm engineer than Max, Harold, Bram, or anyone else on the various projects.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, not just āsource: trust me bro.ā
Maybe publish your dissertation so people can determine whether your assertion is true or not? Otherwise, donāt be surprised that ātrust me broā isnāt enough for long-time community members to go on.
@thetasigma Iāve added a command line option to query proofs from plots. If you donāt trust my words you can check it yourself. Download our client, make a compressed plot, query it for proofs, convince yourself and join our pool! Run it in a docker if you donāt trust binaries.
I would not download and install any closed-source binary on anything other than a disposable VM. And as far as private keys: I definitely would not trust any closed-source binary with any private keys that I wouldnāt be comfortable posting in cleartext on Twitter.
@Dawson , I want to believe you are acting in good faith and have come up with something innovative ā¦ but what Iāve seen so far does not inspire confidence.
@cmdrmoto run it in a disposable VM and there is no need to give it any private keys.
Plotting performance in VM would not be good but it is ok for a test.
If you are on linux use this docker command for example
If malware is unable to do something fiendish, due to the VM environment, then how will that reveal what the malware would do on a physical machine where it would not be constrained?
Doesnāt it seem this fellow is trying awfully hard to please you doubters? He doesnāt get mad, just answers your questions (a good sign IMHO). Give the guy a bit of a break, just because it sounds (perhaps) āto good to be trueā ā¦ so was MadMax when he brought his creation out, and all were sure it was a scam then as well.
Iād say all someone with a spare PC has to do is run some test plots with other keys and see what happens ā¦ I mean why not? What is there to loose, and a lot to potentially gain?
